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are we now? 9:00 p.m. sunday. fox news. relive the dream. dream again. >> the federal government will conduct a national test of the emergency alert system. >> you cannot avoid it. it is everywhere. john: does it make you feel safe the government spent 40 years studying the assault assault -- soap. do we need government to protect workers? >> absolutely. next? -- question. [laughter] >> good intentions and gone wrong. that is the show. tonight. john: politicians claimed they make life better to pass laws. they have good intentions but we should not judge by intention. politicians good intentions go wrong. work regulation. companies are not greedy they don't care about their workers but seems reasonable government has to protect them. almost everybody agrees. >> they should be protected. >> definitely. so many things could have been. corporations could be corrupt. the government should step been. john: that makes sense. so much beyond the workers' control. safety rules. what does a factory owner care? that is why we need occupational safety and health administration. it sets safet

of this government, geronimo. and carol says sandra on the cover of time magazine, but it more own a gun. was it could? to like this? that is our show tonight. [applause] >> and now john stossel. john: food can kill. people will eat the wrong stuff may get sick. it's while most everyone says we need government toet some limits. make sure there is not bacteria in your food or dangerous chemicals. to make sure food companies tell you what is in their food and how fattening it is. state legislator felix ortiz ha done that in new york city. he got trans fat man, calorie counts posted at mcdonald's and other fast-food places now he wants a ban on adding too much salt. so ou think he saved lives? >> absolutely. john: okay. a farmer. he grows vegetables dollar raises cows, chickens, and pigs. i assume you want the people who buy your beef and pork to be safe. so don't we owe him a vote of thanks for saving this? >> no. i would say you're killing me out here. trying to get my stuff to market. this plethora of government regulations, you know, is killing our farm and our ability to come to rket.

on the tax. bottom line, the government takes it out of the system cutting and raising taxes and the small or deficit. that means that people are going to be out of work, almost by definition in the short run. but in the long run it's a healthier economy that doesn't go down the path of greece. if the long run greece would have low unemployment, but they do not, but yes, we're going to go a percent, if it happens the worse case scenario, but in five years we won't be not able to borrow money. >> brenda: julian, you can go ahead and respond. >> first of l, the ernst & young study has been debunked over and ov. and number two, the bush tax cuts, if you let the bh tax cuts. the crs study was a republican study and found the same thing as the cbo. if you let bush tax cuts expire on everybody, yes, you would have negative economic impact. the two staetudies done recentl shows the top two rates, top 2%, virtually no impact. to jonas' point if you raise taxes the lot and cut spending a lot and so austerity plan, that would have an impact. democrats were for pouring more money into the compli with

of americans on food stamps going up? fren million americans receivinglet benefit, is it because government officials are constantly promoting it i am dave asbin. go in focus with victoria and rich and rick a john and, john why are food stamps going up if unemployment is going down. >> the unemploymeate is gh and that obcures a people who left the work force altogether that are not counted. as for politicians encouraging that, that is a horrifying notion . thidea of going on food stamps is something that should be so painful we only go on tm a brief time so there is an incentive to go back if the work force. >> rick, you have all of the ads and i hear four of them every hour and government volunteers specifically going out to encourage people to get food stamps . ere is it a big push to get people on food stamps. >> i don't think it is it promoting the food stamps but getting information to people who need the so they know they are there to g them. i think there is a lot taking place that we need to recognize. we have surprisingly good news on unemployment. there will be i lag for that and

. >> but the new forbes report showing that more people in the states are taking money from the government than the private sector, can our nation afford deal that doesn't put so-called entitlements on the table. i am dave. we'll go to. mike, to you. we have to put entitlements on the table? >> for the sake of the over all economy we must put enments on the table. over the last four years entitlement spending is growing faster than the over all economy. this is why president obama has this country in record debt. that hurt the economy. take-home pay decreased under president obama. we must get entitlements under control. >> rick at the unemployment and housing vouchers. it is 800 billion extra spending. doesn't that have to be cut. >> there is no chance that there will be a dole without entitlement cuts. what sator durbin is talking about is the importance of focusing. if we want a deal you will not doing by taking a wide sprect rum appoach. president clinton was clear when he spoke to the republicans. he pointed out that the biggest driver of the united states debt is medicare. he understands

like ronald reagan who understand this principle. bill clinton famously said the era of big government is over and the end of wel welfare as we know it. why? because government is not the answer. government is the problem. there was that other iconic democrat, the one that occupied the oval office in 1962. he spoke of the benefits of cutting taxes. president obama, i hope you're watching this. >> this can be the most important step we could take to prevent another recession. that is the right time to make tax cuts both for your family budget and the national budget. resulting from a permanent basic reform and reduction in our rate structure, a creative tax cut creating more jobs and income and eventually more revenue. it will include an across the the board top to bottom cut in both corporate and personal income taxes. the billions of dollars this bill will place in the hands of the consumer, and our businessmen, will have both immediate and permanent benefits to our economy. every dollar released from taxation that is spent or invested will help create a new job and a new salary and t

in principle, but the fact if we don't get past the deadline, people are one, going to view government as totally inept or more inept than it is right now. and businesses free us up and they're afraid of doing anything and the individual freezes up. look, who is going to be out there actively investing and looking for work? you just don't know what's going to happen with all that we need to get something done, as bad as it might be. >> and does a month or two really make a difference? at some point, they're going to come up with something. >> yeah, that's right. i mean, i think a month or two a probably okay. and, but i'mith gary. if they kick this thing back a year, it really confirms the markets worst suspensions, which is thawe've got a congress that has absolutely no functionality whatsoever, they're well and truly broken and i mean, that would be disturbing, kicking back a month or two, i think the market can stomach that. i don't think the market would want to see us kick it back a year or two, no, no, no. >> here is the deal, tobin, what about we kick the can, we kick the can, w

in the government's effort to go after the rebels. i mean, we have seen babies and children, women, civilians tortured and killed day after day in syria. and now the thought that they might unleash chemical weapons on them is focusing new attention on what happened back in 1988 when saddam hussein did it. he used the same type of chemical weapons to kill kurds, thousands of them. again, back in '88. thousands of innocent died in the attack, more than 10,000 suffered horrific injuries, not to mention -- we'll talk about it, exactly what happened in '88, how it unfolded, how they handled it and what the death toll was. they said birds just started dropping out of the sky, sheep and goats -- that was the first sign -- started keeling over in the fields dead, and then came the human death toll. it happens quickly, and it is awful. and it is one of the reasons why our government is taking this so seriously, this possible threat. and preparation now of weapons like sarin gas. more on that coming up in just a bit. >>> also from washington right now, fox news has confirmed that the fbi is today inves

in this country, it's out of control. we need to limb the size of government. if you truly believe these things, then you say it's not just about imposing damage on the middle class, the poor who rely on social safety net programs. you have to say the rich have to have some skin in the game. >> hang on one second. >> and they do, they do. >> hang on, hang on. >> and it in terms of tax rates in this country. >> hold on. one sec. i want to ask juan a question. why won't the president negotiate all of this at the same time in because the president is saying give me what i want and then maybe next year we'll talk about what you want and we all know that's not going to happen. >> i don't think that's true. >> very true. >> from what i understand in washington, the president is saying what is critical is that republicans have to stop being inflection i believe by protecting the top two percent and sacrificing the rest of us. and if they do something about taxes on the very rich we can then talk about what spending cuts will be put in place. >> david. >> it's not fair and it's not intellectually hones

than 50 cents of every dollar they make. they pay the state, the local, the fatigue government in taxes. what america should be addressing is two things. one, we should be addressing generational theft. we now as a country borrow 40 cents of every dollar that the government spends, and we've accumulated 16 trillion dollars in debt. now, in 2008 obama called nine trillion dollars in debt. he said that was irresponsible, unpatriotic. to say this another way, we're literally stealing money from our children and our grandchildren. now, this is the kind of generational theft that has never happened in this country until now, and neerlt part neits addressing this on a regular basis. both parties are arguing over how to tax the rich. now, number two. greed and overspending. for all the talk about greedy rich people in america, how is it possible that politicians' greed is never addressed? after all, they robbed the social security trust fund. they spent it. that's your retirement money that was supposed to be put away in a safe lock box. they spent that money. medicare is also headed for bankr

to the regime since 2009 when the iranian government was caught off guard and saw the large presence on the internet and getting information from outside of the country and sending information from inside out. it was the twitter rev -- revolution. they were using youtube and blog citizen journalist . this is the dialogue and communication that the government wants to control. so on - >> gretchen: so they are putting satellite blockers. >> it is working. every time there is an obstacle in place they are fining ways to work around it they are technological savvy. three-quarters of the country is under the age of 35. this is not someone they can suppress for too much time . the message to the west and united states in particular, is that this is the achilles heel of the government in iran. they want to protect their existence and they feel vulnerable . they will go to any ends to stop this flow of information. >> gretchen: what should westerners be aware of? is there anything can do? >> support the iranian people in terms of the programs. in the 2009 uprising, there were independent com

there is not a joke. we need someone to be serious about the issue, about the spending. we have a federal government that spends about 25% of our gdp and people are jumping up and down the fact that we've got a 2.7% gdp growth in the last quarter. that's nothing. that's quite anemic. ronald reagan had us clicking out of the carter recession at 7 or 8%. > >> greta: americans for prosperity is unhappy with speaker boehner's proposal. he's also getting hit by his own team. >> i think this is a very pragmatic proposal that the speaker has laid out there. to say that we can generate revenues, not from raising rates but from reducing the exemptions, the deducts and loop loopholes out there. how do we start moving away from these six different tax brackets and bring them down to two and flat tax this thing out and expand the tax base as well. >> greta: i take it you're behind the speaker's proposal? >> i do stand behind that proposal. one thing i want to make sure. we cannot compromise our principles. when we start talking about limited government and precluding the growth and expansion of the government,

hearing at the start of the health reform debate, which may be apocryphal, "keep government hands off my medicare." the big tea party uprising was in large part a reaction to the idea, quote/unquote, of socialized medicine. it was the affordable care act, and the government, quote, takeover of health care, that fanned the flames of the post-obama tea party protest. but, of course, most of the actual republicans who were actually elected back then were elected because they ran ads like this. >> congressman brad ellsworth said he would protect our seniors. but when he got to washington, congressman ellsworth voted for the largest cuts in medicare history, over $500 billion. robin carnahan supports $500 billion in medicare cuts, ç hurting seniors most. rand paul doesn't support higher medicare deductibles for seniors. conway distracts with negative ads to hide his support for obama care, which cuts medicare by $500 billion. >> that was 2010. fast forward to this year's election and the same principle carries through. each side tried to convince voters that the other guy wanted to take the

. >> blankets hang across one alleyway to block government snipers' line of sight. the shooting is coming from there, the sniper, one of the fighters points out. they take us further forward. crawling through holes punched between buildings. they're just telling us that it's because of the snipers that they have to move through the various buildings like this. it's an urban version of first world war trenches. they etched forward by just one block. going any further is back breaking work. a rebel dashes down the street carrying a makeshift rocket launcher. it's a plastic tube. he later displays the rocket. this is a homemade rocket that was manufactured by the fighters themselves in this very battlefield. but they can't find the sand bags to stabilize the launcher. the weapons the fighters carry are spoils of war, captured from government forces, but they also make a promise. there is a message we have, one of the older fighters vows. when this is over, the guns will be handed over. i am just fighting to see my house down the road, he says. it's hard to fully absorb the scale of the devastatio

on the ads, making shut down the government, make them look bad, recreate 1995 which i participated in. you make it look bad and you get a shot to take back the house and create american public opinion to work for you. >> and the country goes bankrupt thank you for being honest. >> i'm not writing policy, nor am i policy person, but i do understand. this is an attempt under this president to ensure that the republicans look as bad as they have never looked. lou: the republicans, this is a direct attack. and to elements of the dna of the republican party. one is low taxes and secondly, it is a sense of fiscal prudence and responsibility. if they play it is entirely wrong they could have both of those elements of their dna strips from them. >> that is right. the thing i worry about is the republicans seem to negotiates themselves. they blew an opportunity to frame this issue to the american people. when you had the senate minority leader, and laugh when he heard about the proposal, if i were him i would have come out and said, you know what, this administration wants to usurp the constitttion

government. merry christmas, government. you are not the real savior. the reverend joins us live this christmas season. >> brian: super storm sandy couldn't wipe out his home but something else did. >> she said to me. are you sure your house is gone. you misplace a pen and pencil but not a house. >> gretchen: how the entire house vanished."fox and friendst now. ♪ ♪ "fox and friends". >> steve: a house is something that is not easy to misplace. if you leave it there, you come back and it is there. >> gretchen: you hope that happens. we'll fill you in on the details. in the meantime what happen in a phone call. a lot can happen, right. you can get in fights and agreements and compromise. hum, i am not so sure that happened in the phone call between speaker of the house john boehner and president of the united states, barack obama. did they come to a conclusion. it is now the president's turn. >> brian: it is a week since the president and speaker talked. i do not know at of this moment who called who. >> steve: we know no details. >> brian: it is good there is no details. i jus

except trying to rein in government. >> the truth of the matter, what's a starting to happen is that international investors, the fact that we cannot govern is going to really come home to roost. >> gld man says this is the first time he's seen people take it out of american markets. >> it's he supposed to work this w way. they can't govern either. >> i was so hopeful, i wasn't obviously thrilled with the election results, but i actually thought that result might be the result we needed to get thefshs done. >> in a way you you have the situation where -- >> you extend 98 but not the 2? believing that story is so -- >> either raise them on everyone or raise them on -- either it will hurt the economy if you raise taxes or it's not. on 98 it won't hurt, on 2 it will -- >> we'll have more on this argument. in the meantime, let's talk about some of the other headlines. financial firms are gathering for the goldman sachs financial services contractors. a key presenter is brian money tha moynihan. we talked about his reports of planned fee increases. plus there was the issue of pres

government to write a big check to the state. we found with katrina, of the $140 billion, according to independent government auditors, there was rampant corruption and fraud and no bid contracts that went to cronies and we estimate that somewhere between 20 percent to 25 percent to 30 percent of the money was wasted on fraudulent contracts. it didn't helps victims. a lot of people got rich but it wasn't the people who lost their homes. >>neil: you can see money for a variety of purposes, the money coming in, helping the victims, helping sandy victims now, but it goes through a variety of nefarious purposes and could fill a hole in the budget. where is the backup to look at making sure this money is going for the pups to which it is intended? >>guest: this is the frustration as a taxpayer watch dog. going back to katrina we did not find out about a lot of this until a year or two years later and the american people had moved on and congress moved on so we didn't eleven any lessons. now we are about to make the same mistakes with respect to the clean up of sandy that we made when we

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from the work force. it is accelerating today. and part of this is being subsidized by the government through record disability payments. lou: disability payments from social security administration, taking that a side when one looks at food stamps and medicaid alone, you can add other incentives as well and support programs, but we are looking at the prospect of having one in the quarter workers for every one person on welfare and working the government. we are reaching a dangerous, dangerous to pinpoint in this country, and we have nancy pelosi, the minority leader saying that you cannot cut your way to deficit reduction. mind-boggling. >> it is mind-boggling. after the second world war we cut our government spending by 60 percent. the economy boomed. we cut ourselves all the way into a big surplus. israel was in a catastrophic crisis in the mid 80's. it cut its way drastically to a surplus. lou: this country has a long history. >> and new zealand. lou: this country, if we can be parochial allotted for a moment, we can learn from our own experience. it is pretty clear that when we t

evidence suggesting that president al-assad in syria is using his government supplies including mixing chemical compounds and loading them on to bombs. syria is believed to have muss tared -- mustard gas and sarin. president obama said any attempt by syria to use chemical weapons against its own people will be met with consequence. >> and new developments in north korea as a planned rocket launch. the test fire was scheduled sometime on monday, but north korea's state media says scientists are seriously considering adjusting the time frame. meanwhile the u.s. is deploying warships to the region to monitor the situation there. north korea maintains it is just trying to put a satellite into orbit, but the u.s. says it is a cover for testing ballistic missal technology. >>> one week after a murder-suicide involving the kansas city chiefs player more sad news rocking the nfl. dallas cowboys ease nose tackle josh brent under arrest after a car crash that killed his teammate jerry brown. brown was just 25 years old. he was a member of the cowboys' practice squad. dominique is live in l.a. wi

to dangerous levels that might have required a government bailout. a lot of people weren't marking things where needed to go. >> i have a lot of questions about this story. it's an amazing allegation. $12 billion in paper losses. >> a lawyer from one of the whistle blowers will join us at 6:50. in a statement to cnbc, the bank says that allegations have already been investigated and all accounting was proper. >> my biggest questions are the allegations say the bank was doing it 2007 to 2010 and nobody came forward until late 2011 to make any complaints. i just wonder if you had been complaining the whole time along -- >> we just had this discussion about how far away do you need to be to where it's a false mark. at least 10% wiggle room. there were no buyers. if there is buyers, does that make it zero. >> basel 2 created a system that if things became less liquid, there is no change in the actual value of of the underlying asset. just couldn't sell it. so it's a bit like saying my house is a lesser asset because i can't accept it right now even though i don't want to sell it right now. >> who m

. and there's no sign they had to reverse the support, and today, a senior lawmaker says the syria government is now incapable of functioning properly. just before the meeting with the russian foreign minister, secretary clinton insisted that the united states and russia share common goals in the region. >> trying hard to work hard with russia to stop the bloodshed in syria and begin a political transition to a post asad future. the pressure against the regime in and around damascus seems to be increasing. lou: at home, leon pa net fa issuing the -- panetta issuing the sharpest warning yet. >> the president of the united states made it clear there will be consequences. there will be consequences if the assad regime makes a terrible mistake by using chemical weapons on their own people. lou: neither the white house or pentagon elaborating on what the cons -- consequences would be, but having russia back them would be a determined outcome made by the promise of president obama in dealing with russia after winning a second term as he remarked to the russian president thinking they were off micro

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to be very clear to the syrian government as its situation deteriorates, they must not think about deploying these things. they must not deploy them. >> shepard: reports suggest syria produces and stores its chemical weapons in five different locates across the country much the white house has warned if they use those weapons there will be consequences. we don't know what those consequences could involve. that's probably by design. team fox coverage begins now, james rosen live at the state department. one of syrians backers has been throughout the russians and now what may be an important development their support seems to be wavering, james. >> that's right, shep. good evening. the russian foreign minister sergei met with second clinton. also present was the special envoy to the syrian crisis whose work the russians have obstructed. they have worked closely as well as the ally of vladimir putin quoted as saying we have shared and do share in the opinion that the existing government in syria should carry out its functions. time has shown that this task is beyond its strength. another import

of their own government. united states and nato agreeing to deploy patriot weapons and to thwart an aso-called by assad. the missile systems to be positioned near the syria. his staff denies that and estimates if they were deploy troops, it requires 75,000 of the troops in a full ground invasion in order to seize the chemical weapon stockpile. fox news confirming they were not ordered to draft the consideration of such a mission. secretary of state clinton is nonetheless talking very tough calling for assad to step down as the obama administration has done for the past 15 months, but refusing, still, to detail which consequences those would be. >> we will explore with like-minded countries what more we can do to bring the conflict to an end, but that will require the assad regime making the decision to participate in a political transition, ending the violence against its own people, and we hope that they do so because we believe, as you know, that their fall is inevitable, but it's a question of how many people will die until that day occurs. lou: the violence, and morsi protesters in

should not be conceding that the federal government needs more money, negotiating with ourselves and treating the president's proposal like it's serious. >> we do agree that 8% of the american people are getting about 80% of this tax cut shouldn't have their taxes raised. my suggestion was let's take the one area we agree and take it off the table. >> but zoraida, as you saw there from the president earlier in that bloomberg interview, he is digging in, saying there can't be a deal unless upper income americans pay more. middle-class americans should get the bush era tax cut extension. is he not backing down from that at all. the president saying in that interview that he's not being stubborn. he's not being partisan but rather that it's, quote, a matter of math. >> we've been talking now for a while that americans blame republicans if a deal doesn't go through. new polling shows americans are pessimistic a deal will be reached at all. break down those numbers for us. >> the tune that we're seeing now from not only the white house but also members up on capitol hill where they on

with disabilities. and another provision of the treaty that can be read to obligate the united states government to pay for abortion services. >> you are just interpreting things. it doesn't -- it never uses the word abortion. it basically says on -- that disabled people should have the same access to health care that other people have. that nondisabled people have overseas. again, we're talking about overseas. >> it does refer to reproductive rights and reproductive rights in this context has been interpreted to include abortion. and this is an -- >> interpreted by you. >> yes, and a number of other people who have looked at it as well. so the point is that if this does mean something, and if it could mean something that could impact u.s. law -- >> but this treaty states, it's not self-executing. and the u.s. supreme court has said that a nonself-executing treaty doesn't create obligations that can be enforced in u.s. federal courts. >> the fact that it may be nonself-executing, anderson, doesn't mean it doesn't have any impact at all. it just means you may not be able to bring a lawsuit arisin

, it is no answer to express compassion for them or create more government programs that offer promise and don't perform . we must come together and advance new strategies. our complicated and uncertain tax code is hindering the jobs. you can't open a business if your tax rate is too high or uncertain. i personally oppose the president's plan to raise taxes. [applause] listen, this is not about a pledge. it is not about protecting millionaires and billionaires. for me it is the fact that tax increases he wants would fail to make a small dent in the debt but it would hurt the middle class business and people who work for them. >> gretchen: this is what the campaign was about . people are sick i and tired of hearing the same talking points . people want to see actual tax reform. get the job done and the kick the can down the road is what we have done for the last four years. will president obama be a different president now he's reelected and will he be concerned about his legacy and take hold and lead discussions on the bigger issues. it upon didn't seem like it is happening in this interview.

one on one, and no one is objecting. >>> the crisis in egypt remains volatile, with massive anti-government rallies planned today. >>> heartbreaking survival story for a woman stranded in the snow in the california sierra nevada mountains. >>> shoppers at a seattle macy's had to be hospitalized when an escalator they were riding malfunctioned. >> fire to the end zone. touchdown. >> broncos with their eighth straight win. >> all that -- >> three, two, one! >> my 50th birthday, she gives everybody a car and then she's all, thank you for coming to gayle's birthday! >> we're talking about oprah, right? >> no, of course not. >>> and all that matters. >> south carolina tea party says jim demint is resigning. >> leaving the senate a lot better than i found it. >> jim demint leaves some big shoes to fill. >> jim demint leaves some big shoes to fill. then again -- captioning funded by cbs en again -- >>> welcome to "cbs this morning." i'm charlie rose in new york. norah o'donnell is in washington. the northeastern coast of japan is still recovering from a devastating tsunami, less than two years ago

% want government leaders to compromise on the fiscal cliff. just 25% said they should stick to their principles. so why is it that this congress and this white house can't seem to get together and compromise on a deal? it certainly isn't the first time republicans and democrats haven't seen eye-to-eye on an important issue but the players in this debate seem to be almost allergic to budging even a little bit. republican senator john mccain says it hasn't always been that way and it's time for both sides to sit down together. >> it's time now to sit across the table from one another rather than me saying what i could accept and wouldn't accept, why don't we have the president and our leaders, republican and democrat, sit across the table the way they did with bill clinton, the way they did with ronald reagan, and the way you get things done in washington, rather than saying hey, would you stick with grover norquist or would you not or would you address entitlements or not. i believe it's vital that we address the entitlements, who are the elephant in the room, but that would

government. these senates don't have that view. there will be another generation coming ae long. iraq and afghanistan war veterans. it will be interesting to see how they perform. >> great to have you with us tonight. thanks so much. that's "the ed show." "the rachel maddow show" starts right now. >> good evening, ed. thanks. and thanks to you at home for joining us this hour. it was a strange bomb shell in washington today. a little bit of news that came from an unexpected source. bob woodward got his hands on an audio recording of the top commanding general in afghanistan meeting off the record with a fox news analyst. the meeting took place last spring. it was general david petraeus who was at the time commander of all u.s. forces in the war in afghanistan. and on the tape, fox news analyst says that she was asked by her boss, by the chairman of fox news to pass along some very specific advice for general petraeus. >> if you're offered chairman, take it. if you're offered anything else, don't take it. resign in six months and run for president. okay? and i know you're not run

, the feral government is expected to spend, let'do it this way, over three and a half trillion dollars. that's a lot of money, especially since they are only collecting to one-half in revenue and taes. that leaves us with the deficit of one. that is the deficit. sizable it is. this will be the president's fourth for which he is personally responsible, fourth deficit in excess of a trillion dollars. president obama wants to plug that trillion dollars hole by raising taxes on household incomes, as we all know that have incomes over $250,000. the top 2%. that would bring in $802 million, $82 billion. that'sbout 8% of that deficit. so does that suggt we have a tax problem or, perhaps, a spending problem? think about this taxpayers making more than $250,000 representing the top 2% paid more than 46% f all texas. that would seem like a pretty fair deal to most of us, but the president says it is not fair. we don't know what that number is. how much should it be? and contrary to what the president would have you believe as he campaigns untack sites all around the country and against the wealthy, he

. the government finds exporting it is better than keeping it here at home. >> apple as we mentioned in the spotlight today, shares of the tech giant coming off their worst day in four years, sliding back into bear market territory. the one day loss erased nearly $35 billion in market cap. that chunk is bigger than 400 other s&p 500 companies. apple ceo tim cook talked to nbc's brian williams in our rock center exclusive. >> why can't you be a made in america company? >> you know, this i found, as a matter of fact, the engine in here is made in america. and not only are the engines in here made in america, but engines are made in america and are exported. the glass on this phone is made in kentucky. so we have been working for years on doing more and more in the united states, next year, we will do one of our existing mac lines in the united states. >> you can see the entire interview with tim cook tonight on rock center, that's 10:00 eastern time on your local nbc station, but for now investors are watching the market. apple shares 5.31, which is close to the main lows. this is clos

and range of programs. we proposed 600 billion of detailed reforms and savings to our health care government programs. in fact the health care savings in that plan are larger than in the republicans in the past. >> gretchen: i understand why tim geithner is the guy to do the negotiations, my question why is it tim geithner. the treasury secretary is not supposed to be a political position. do republicans lovtim gite goit they thought they would get a deal done if it is the treasury secretary stopping by or should the president sit in the meeting. to your point brian, about making the campaign stops. it is because in a weird way they are wasting time until we get to the actual cliff. >> steve: sure. that is the pres pice. grover norquist said why don't we just get the c-span and watch the sausage being made. it could be too scary. >> brian: they had him out there and he defended himself yesterday. he's doing a good job exactly defining what he's going for. he's not the angry guy everyone portrade himself. mr. #1: makes a point that washington smends too much. another story that everyone is ta

fighting in syria outside the city of aleppo. rebel fighters trapped hundreds of government soldiers inside a military base and say they are giving them a chance to defect. this as president obama warns syrian president bashar al assad that there will be serious consequences if he uses chemical weapons against his own weapon. >> this regime is a real problem for us. its alliance with iran, its possession of chemical weapons, weapons of mass destruction. its human rights record, its support of terrorism. this is a regime we would like to get out of the way. we don't want to see it replaced with people we don't support either. >>> the syrian foreign ministry denies they have plans to use chemical weapons. >>> the family of jovan belcher is speaking publically for the first time since he fatally shot his girl friend and killed himself. belcher's sister and uncle stood by his aunt as she spoke outside the home where the football star lived with 22-year-old kasandra perkins and their 3-month-old daughter. >> we will cherish the wonderful memories we have of javon and pray those memory also bring

coming from the government. they haven't said anything but that's not the problem. this has been going on now for months and months on end. selling shanghai and buying into hong kong. there's a couple problems. number one, shanghai is completely domestic market. let's face it. less sophisticated investors and too many shares of shanghai stocks out there. the owners of these stocks have flooded the market, carl, in the last couple of years with too many shares. so there are way too many shares of these stocks on the market and this constant calls to buyback stocks from mainland china. the important thing here is hong kong is an international market. international investors can get in on that deal. that's why i think -- i don't know how jim feels about this. if you ask who is right shanghai or hong kong, i would go more with hong kong outlook than shanghai outlook. >> totally agree. great report. >> i want to get back to phil lebeau on ford. brought us numbers but now predictions on production next year. >> the key here is production drives revenue which drives earnings and this is impor

government to send a message that all right we understand some people have to have handguns and we are not going to restrict the sale of handguns to people who are legally entitled to them. you must have a license. you must go through training you must do what the government mandates you to do. you have a handgun or machine gun. you don't have the papers and you commit a crime with them or whatever. you are going to jail that message is not being sent and it should be. >> that's the better two of messages that after you have gone over the line and committed a crime with your gun then you are to be held responsible to the -- that makes more sense to me. >> here is the thing about this conversation is that i think a lot of this, the nfl coverage was strange yesterday because there was very little desire to put any blame on the player himself on belcher himself this weird situation where more people had more moral outrage about dom errant kick. you saw bob does stats entirely on handguns. >> bill: i think that's unfair to costas. >> but i think what you are doing when you start a gun

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the government can borrow. the republican response? >> i was just flabbergasted. i looked at him and said, you can't be serious. >> reporter: two prominent republicans told me that house republicans may ultimately give in to the president on extends just those middle class tax cuts. if they do that, george, without a deal on spending, the president would get nothing else and face another big battle early in the year over the debt limit and what the government can borrow. >> to josh with the top stories. >>> good morning all of you. secretary of state hillary clinton has issued a new warning about possible u.s. involvement in syria. clinton traveling in europe today warned the syrian government that the united states will respond if dictator bashir al assad deploys chemical weapons in the fight against rebel forces in his country. recent reports indicate there has been new activity at syria's chemical weapons sites. >>> the other developing story right now from that highway disaster in japan. you see the latest video here from inside that tunnel that collapsed, sending concrete panels crashing

, there has been no activity at those airfields. and the syrian government insists it will not use chemical weapons. but that does not mean this threat has gone away. opposition forces are gaining ground in syria's capital, putting more pressure on syria's unpredictable and vicious president. josh? >> and as news becomes available, we'll have it for you. martha, thank you for that. >>> other breaking news from the other major international crisis unfolding in recent days. the egyptian army has been deployed to keep the peace in cairo, after deadly riots erupted outside the palace overnight, between supporters and opponents of president mohamed morsi. you see them here. critics say morsi is trying to install a dictatorship, with his recent power grab and the new constitution written. five people have been killed in the fighting. hundreds more have been injured. >>> new accusations that walmart and the gap may have played a role in that devastating factory fire that made headlines around the world. at least 112 garment workers were killed in the fire in bangladesh last month. this morning, bl

're rig out of washington we've allowed our government to create a lead weight of debt that brings us down, down, down, instead o great things and turned over the rush shins and chinese and surrendered our enormous lead in the space program because of other indebtedness. it's heart breakinghat this whole enormous adventure of outerpace has now passed from the united states to other countries. it's just a heartache. >> do you think, charles payne, that we could have done what we did in the states and even initiated a race, if we had the debt, if we do now back then? >> 16 trillion? i, you know, it would have been a lot tougher to push it through. i do want to get back to what adam was saying. there's big difference between being a public servant to your constituents to america, and being this servant to an agenda or an ideology. i applaud like charlie gaerino barack obama's suess, john boehner's success, came in humble beginnings, but neither one of us are doing us a favor. neither one of them are deserving of hero worship in a country falling apart. >> i didn't think we should be hero wors

about the fact that in theory americans like small government. but in practice when you start talking about popular programs, they get very, very snippy about you threatening to cut anything. so what we have here is a situation where they've taken -- the republicans have taken away the presidential talking point of, well, republicans don't have a plan. but they have not taken away the talking point of, well, republicans want to cut all this so that they can keep tax cuts for the wealthiest americans. and until they address that issue, i think from a perform r standpoint this could remain politically disastrous for them. >> now, ezra, they keep talking, they being the republicans, like this was a status quo election. but you wrote today that they are in a weaker position this time around and know it. you wrote, boehner opens his latest letter by reminding the president that 2012 was a status quo election in which both you and the republican in the minority in the house were re-elected. that's technically true and in every other way incorrect. the fact is that 2012 was a democratic rall

buy silver and gold. you can actually -- there's a big markup in coins. the government doesn't help. you can own pieces of silver and pieces of gold. >> do you have some on you right now? >> no, i don't. i have it buried in the backyard. i have it in a vault. never bury your gold in the backyard. >> i'll remember that. thank you for that advice. >> first we have to get backyard. >> el paso electric company celebrating tenth anniversary. yit celebrating its 100th anniversary. want to go straight to mary thompson with breaking news out of fdic. >> this is the fdic's third quarter breaking profile looking at how banks performed in the third quarter. profits for insured institutions rising to best levels in six years in the third quarter. higher profits driven by higher revenue and lower loan loss provisions. the company's third quarter operating revenue increased by 3% in the last quarter and that's a positive sign. it was the first time for the world's largest revenue that banks posted in three years. loan balances increased. it was slightly less than in the second quarter. we should

's amazing what soup can do >> 11 minutes until the top of the hour. the federal government slapped with another lawsuit. a california oyster farmer is asking them to allow the 40 year leak to expire. as a result he and 30 of the employees will lose their job. the land will be designated a marine wilderness area. if you have been on a diet and thought the forbidden piece of chocolate you snuck tastes so good guilt food taste better than they otherwise who you are on a diet. >>> have you ever tried to drop a couple pounds chances are you have bought into the multi-million dollar diet industry. if you still haven't dropped those unwanted pounds they mit may not be your diet. it could be all in your head. 75 percent of over heatieating caused by euyour emotions. how do you take control? >> clinical sipsychiatrist and author of end of emotional eating joins us with tips. all in our heads. 75 percent of it. >> a lot of it is in our heads. the good news is if it's in your head traditional diets don't work. thr but there are solutions. if you feel like you have tried everything there are s

.r.a. members after they were found carrying explosives in their car. >>> the government releasing the month li jobs report. bettering that expected. the unemployment rate dropping to a four-year low. though some people did stop looking for work. hurricane sandy did disrupt hiring. but not as badly as expected. >>> and a major blow to union rights in michigan. republican lawmakers there have pushed through right-to-work bills. hundreds of activists stormed the capitol, protesting the legislation, which would ban unions from requiring employees to pay fees. >>> and a frightening scene for holiday shoppers this morning. an escalator at a macy's in suburban seattle malfunctioned. breaking apart and leaving four people slightly injured, including two toddlers. officials there say a mechanical failure is to blame. >>> and finally, perhaps, if nothing else, evidence that someone up there must be watching. look at what happens when a tennessee jewelry store clerk tries to make a sale. out of nowhere, that's an suv, through the front glass. nearly taking out both clerk and customer. both were shaken up

. >>> a strong warning today from secretary of state hillary clinton to the syrian government over the potential use of chemical weapons. one official in the obama administration told cnn there are worrying signs that syria may be considering the use of such weapons against rebels. new this morning, this mayor of this town along the border with turkey told cnn that jets dropped two bombs wounding several people. >>> it is 18 minutes past the hour. we are getting an early read on your local news making national headlines this story from "the boston globe." a year after the paper found that stores and restaurants across massachusetts were intentionally mislabeling fish. guess what? the practice continues. dna testing shows some business are showing cheaper, lower quality fish instead of what is written on the label. in one case, slices of what were supposed to be white tuna at a sushi shop were an oily species of fish that can cause digestive issues. that's terrible. >>> the "new york times," this story got so much attention locally here and around the nation. the homeless man who received a pair

the holiday season. >>> in your world, anti- government activists in syria say fighting is intenser in damascus today between them and troops loyal to president assad. this comes after president obama issued a warning to assad not to use chemical weapons. secretary of state hillary clinton says if assad goes down that road, there will be consequences. >>> so how far would you go for your child's education? the chaos as parents try to sign their kids up to a school. >> who knew what could you find at good will. the treasure one woman stumbled upon for $12. we have it coming up. ,,,,,,,, welcome se my lcret d you are?air.an your worst nightmare mr. box. since you foolishly brought back your bonus jack! i have copied your two pure beef patties, lettuce, melting cheese, pickles, and middle bun, plus fries and a drink for $4.49. and now you will tell me what is in your secret sauce!! uh, i think i know. "we all know," "pretty obvious." you couldn't tell me when i handed out the wiener-dog lasers!?! they raced to sign their chd up for a spot at a-j whitteg >>> oh, my god, seriously. >> y

weapons against rebels, trying to overthrow the country's government. today, neighboring turkey, is asking nato for patriot missiles to defend itself as a precaution. president obama has warned syria the u.s. will respond if chemical weapons are employed. >>> back in this country, federal health officials say the flu season is already here. it's the earliest start in nearly a decade. and take a look at this map. widespread flu already being reported from tennessee into the deep south, texas, missouri and georgia not far behind. this year's strain could be dangerous for children and the elderly. doctors' advice here, get your flu shots. >>> meanwhile here in new york, police trying to find the man in this subway surveillance video, arguing with another man in the middle of the day. seconds later, he pushed that man into the path of an oncoming train. the man was killed. police are checking other video, hoping to find a clear image of the killer. no word on what the two were arguing about. >>> and finally, some quick thinking here saves the lives of these two young girls waiting for their mo

for our economy, which would also bring revenue to the federal government. >> there's that word certainty, which we would fully understand. congresswoman, if there is not a deal reached, would you characterize that as a massive failure on the part of congress? in fact, both sides? >> yeah, i believe we either are going to succeed together or fail together. and i go back to the model from president reagan and tip o'neill in the early '80s. as they look at tax reform as well as these entitlement programs, that's the approach we need today. proven that it can be done. and we need president obama to come to the table, provide that leadership, the republicans are willing. speaker boehner is ready today. let's get the job done. >> all right. congresswoman kathy mcmorris rodgers. thank you for coming on the show. come back, glad you're there in the negotiations talking to everybody. >> eugene robinson, final thoughts this block? >> well, you know, actually congress and the president have agreed on a huge deficit reduction package. it's called the fiscal cliff. so, you know, in my darker moments,

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